Flat Attack in No Cal. zzzzzzzzzzzz

Friday drove from Winters, CA to Chico on a relocation.  FLAT like you wouldn't believe... Makes FL look like a roller coaster.  Fortunately the scenery and small towns were lovely to see, and traffic wasn't crazy.

From Winters:  Rt 505n, 10E, 113N, 99N.  90+ miles total.

Video:

Winters to Chico, CA

Happy Holidays from Chico, CA!   The last week has been train to Reno for Christmas with cousin and her family... and generally just hanging around Winters, Ca.   

Yesterday I relocated the bike and equipment to Chico to spend time with a new friend and see what's up this way for travels.   The roads north 90+ miles from Vacaville were flatter than anything I had seen yet in CA.  Will post a video later after editing,

  505N - 10E  (Woodland) - 113N - 99N.  The tar strips are about the tallest thing on the highway...   no hills at all...   as flat as FL roads.  This was a very comfortable drive on a quiet Friday afternoon.

Now to spend a few days going back thru phot and video files from the year and see what all hadn't even reached the cutting room yet.

2014 Motorcycle Travel Events

Working on my 2014 calendar of motorcycle adventures.  Several landmark events will hold down major dates and I will fill in the spaces with BMW Rallies, ADV rider events and general discovery of twisty roads on Google Maps.

Here are a few, and I will add to the list in this post as things come together:

FL Jan 10 11 12 - Polar bear adv - not going - http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=920957 
March 27 March Moto Madness, Telico Plains, TN
May 29    BMW RA Rally, Barbers Motorcycle Museum, AL
July 24     BMW MOA Rally MN
Sept 11    Horizons Unlimited, Ontario, CA

hikers at Berryessa

Hiked up the west side of the trails at Lake Berressa.  Met a couple hiking downhill and took some snaps. Enjoy!

MOTORRAD Year of 2013

One riders 2013 recap... we all need to do something like this!!   One week or roads still in the pipeline.

Rt 128 Winters C to Rutherford, 29 to Napa, 121 and 128 back to Winters.

What a lovely ride!   128 is sweeping through the mountains and around the lake.   121 twists its way north from Napa toward Lake Berryessa where ht rejoins 128 and I headed east back to Winters.

Not to be missed!

Why We Ride - Is the trailer better than the movie?

It was fun and had some emotional moments. I was underimpressed. 99.999% of the footage 
was in California, .0001% Daytona, .0001% Sturgis. Lots of history in CA but much of why we ride is because there is so much more than CA. Included lots of different brands. On Any Sunday was more inspirational. I won my tickets in a raffle and it was worth about that.

1o Reasons To Date a Motrcyclist

This is not my original...but it tells our story.

Here’s ten great reasons why motorcyclists make better lovers and significant others to follow up RideApart’s article, “10 Reasons You Shouldn’t Date A Motorcyclist”.

Ready? Here we go.

1. We have a greater sense of adventure.
You know the old adage about enjoying long walks on the beach? We like long rides to the beach, mountains, canyons, desert… there will always be something to enjoy about almost any travel locale. Give us a good road and a nice destination, and we’re set. Forget expensive plane tickets, hotels and five star restaurants… we’re just as happy eating at a good diner after a full day of riding. 

2. We’re not terrified of the world around us.
Motorcyclist’s are constantly reminded of our mortality- “my parent/sibling/friends/friend’s friend died riding a motorcycle” or “those things are dangerous you know”. Yeah, we know. We also know you can die walking down the street, getting on an airplane, or from some random disease or virus. This takes us back to #1- we want to have a good time and try new things. 

3. We’re good at budgeting. 
Sure, we all have different ways of doing so… but we all know how to budget. That fancy bike upgrade might be $400, but we’ll give up buying new clothes and going out to dinner for a few weeks in order to afford it. We’ll understand when you don’t want to go out and blow $100 at a Michelin-Star-having-restaurant, and we’ll be stoked when you’d rather BBQ some grub and get down on an oil change in the garage instead. 

4. We enjoy the little things.
The sun setting behind snowy mountain tops, little tornado of dust on the distant horizon, a low bank of fog creeping across a field- these are all moments that capture our hearts. The transition from a snow damaged asphalt road to fresh new pavement brings us great happiness. Forget constant complaints- we know how to look on the bright side of life. 

5. We’re dedicated.
For most, riding a motorcycle isn’t just a way to get to work… it’s a way of life. One that just gets better the more time you put into it and generally isn’t easy. It’s not something that can just be given up at the drop of the hat, and that kind of determination translates well into other areas of life. When the going gets tough, motorcyclists get going. We’re always willing to help out other motorcyclists, and generally have an elevated sense of the world around us. What the hell does that even mean, you ask? It means we look out for and help each other. Don’t mess with the motofam.

6. We’re observant.
Our lives depend on looking all around us and seeing what we look at- so you’re going to be safer around us too. If we ever chauffeur you around in a car, you can rest assured we DO see that jerk trying to merge over into us. We’ll always remember to look both ways, do our pre-flight safety checks, and we’ll always remember that random item that needs to be picked up on the way home (we might take the long way though). 

7. We’re adaptable. 
Something came up? No big deal. Have to cancel plans? That’s cool, we’ll go have a date with our first love… our motorbike. When you’re familiar with being on the road you develop an ability to go with the flow. Flat tires and dead batteries happen, so we know all about set backs and making things work.

8. We’re not the clingy type. 
Text messages every couple hours? Probably not- we’re too busy riding and then working so we can pay for our next service/road trip/bike upgrade. Being a motorcyclist gives you a certain level of independence which allows you to have your own lives within a relationship. 

9. We give better massages.
For the most part, a motorcyclist’s hands are not going to be overly dainty, soft, and weak. Between long trips grippin’ the bars and wrenching, they’ll have a good strong paws which means better, longer back rubs. Furthermore, after hours on the road, we’ll know just where that knot is in your shoulder. You’re welcome. 

10. Our romantic gestures kick ass.
Going with some stereotypical examples here (fair warning). Yeah, a girl baking you cookies is freaking awesome. But her showing up on her motorbike with those in her backback is that much better. And sure, a guy showing up with roses is adorable. But a guy knocking on your front door in his helmet with a rose that he carried in his teeth for miles to your front door is even cuter. Point, set, match.

Have another reason you should (or shouldn’t) date a motorcyclist? Leave it in the comments below!

Big Thanks to River City BMW Riders Club for letting my attend their holiday party tonight!!! GUeSS WHO (?) won TWO tickets to see "Why We Ride" this Thursday Evening! And Thanks for dinner and Thanks for the beer! Guess I should cough up the $24 and join the club!

Winter on ice - a facebook conversation... For best results read from bottom to top.

Randy Owens 7:44am Dec 7 I rode and camped in my tent a few short years ago in Feb., TX in Van Horn and Marathon and it was 15 and 19 those two nights. Gsa1200 and thank goodness it was clear weather:). No ice. Cross country riding in Winter is a weather gamble! I still do it, but altering a route plan or sitting still a day plus is common. Happy Trails:).

Jeff:

There will be plenty of other Saturdays.  I am driving to the meeting.

Cheers,

Gordy

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Jeff Kurtz 7:14am Dec 7 I would like to thank my friend Bob Fallia for attempting to cross the country in freezing weather for reminding me that it's not the best idea. (He's safe but his Beemer is in a garage in TX while he is back in CA. I was invited to River City BMW Riders breakfast today at 8:00, 25 miles away. Forecast last night was 36 deg but rain... I decided that was warm enough... Now I'm standing here at 7:00 AM looking at 32 on the thermometer and ice on the road... oh well... Maybe will wait an hour and if it improves will try to make the 9:00 meeting...

Moved off course to horse farm.

WOW!  What a difference a day makes...   Went to coffee shop to check internet and walked out with a job at a horse farm with housing!  The lady who owns this is an ex motorcycle track racer, eventer, pentathalon champ...   Her husband is pharma rep.   Will be doing farm chores and fixing internet issues few hours per week and getting housing until end of January...

What the heck is this site that it is the biggest click generator for me lately?  VAMPIRESTAT,com

Join the GS Giants!!!!!! <<< TODAY! (This means YOU!)

Dear GS Giants Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family! If you are reading this, you are a member of the GS Giants - an international club formed to support the growth of adventure riding. Riders across the globe, on any brand of motorcycles are welcome to join us! Our mission is to promote dual sport riding as well as volunteer to assist and participate at dual sport events. Inevitably, we tend to build lifelong friendships during the party at the end of the day’s ride. The official GS Giants website has been updated. Past events where GS Giants have attended are posted as a blog. The list of upcoming events lets you plan ahead for your next big adventure.  A GS Giant store is in development for members to purchase your decals, t-shirts, flags, banners, and other items online. International 2013 rallies read more here   Ribfest read more here Read about MMM here GS Trophy read more here At the beginning of the year GS Giants club will be accepting nominations for our next Board of Directors. Voting and election of new officers will be done before the 2014 MOA rally.  At the end of the rally new board of directors will take office for two years. Watch for information to be posted on the website regarding the nomination process. What’s happening in your area? As Giants we wanna have lots of choices for local riders to get together.  Events can be large or small.  Maybe you will consider putting together a course, hosting a day of motorbike games, or just a dual sport ride in your area.   If this is of interest, let us know what, when, and where. We will post and promote.  If you don’t want to host it yourself, please be sure to volunteer some time to help out at whatever event you attend. Just keep the wheels rolling in your area!  Click here to see who lives in your neck of the woods. GS GIANT MAP! Get your buddies to join!  Sincerely Your Club, the GS Giants

Ride with Malcolm Smith?

This just in:  February Enduro with Malcolm Smith...

Meet up here <<<

Just looked at the clock and it's 1:45 in the afternoon... I would have guessed it was almost 5...

Got up this morning to temps in 40's and overcast, but not windy.   Had a short shopping list that Ace Hardware would probably have... space heater and flood lamp.   $50 net... not bad for winterizing the tent.

On the way out of ace the guy beside me wanted to talk about dual sport bikes and lighting.  

He's on a 50 horse farm with his ex-eventer wife.   They board and mostly have dressage students.   He invited me to visit so we swapped contact info and I will head that way in a couple days.   

Then off to coffee at local 
crapoLA.... It's raining!!!   BRB

15 minutes later...  not raining... it's HAIL!   cripes...   Oh well... at least I am back from town and off the bike until breakfast tomorrow.  

Back to the story:   Went next to Steady Eddie's Coffee Bar for energy boost.

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Didn't even get seated and guy named Bill cornered me to swap Bultaco and trials bike stories.  He's Canadian, ex airforce, world traveler... and talks even more that I do!   The next guy thru the door (Larry from Napa)  was wearing a  moto style jacket so I invited him over...   3 hours later we had outlasted all the other customers and the lunch crowd was coming in...   We all agreed it was time to get on with out day so we broke from there.   Larry and I talked at the curb for another 30 minutes (at least) and he headed west on his Vstrom.   I expect we will tag up again to go for some rides.  He had lots of suggestions of places to ride.

Interesting comment from one of the customers sitting nearby.   She can tell the motorcycle travelers because out posture is so upright and vertical...   She told us the the other prime visitors to the place are bicyclers who can't get straightened up from their riding position.   

Last stop was True Value for black oil sunflower seeds for a bird feeder... found a pie tin that I will get busy and fashion into a tray feeder.    

More tomorrow... I need to get my camera unpacked and start shooting things!

Happy Day, Jeff

Arrived Canyon Creek RV Resort

The power plug for my tent site is 20 ft further away than my extension cord... ugh... and I don't have a lamp or space heater.   I was planning to go to town to buy one of each to use while here.

The other guy who does evening security has an alternate that I am not going to disclose.

Will still buy the items so I can get along if something messes up the plan.   

Laundry is running.   not bad price on the loads in the machines.   Wifi seems a bit spotty.

Got to Verizon online and having phone exchanged.   Will be nice to have a new phone... still not cheap even with their stupid insurance plan... Obama musta gotten to them.

Not a big deal with the phone... no service here.  Will try to use Skype.  Their wifi blocks some sites.  Will see what I can manage.    

Met a couple other camp volunteers.  All are really nice.

Winters is a spiffy little town.   Will find out where peeps go for breakfast and lunch and hang out there day time.   Should be interesting.

Have a good evening.

Jeff

Is Rt 395 boring? 217 miles, 11 curves.

I am going to give this Rt the Thumbs-Up for a quality road tour.   For a mid-westerner who has never seen the Rockies, it's a nice introduction and a very relaxing out-there-by-yourself drive.  Today I drove north from Adelanto on Rt 395...  250 miles starting a move to Winters, CA.   395 originates just south of there. so I can say that I drove that previously.   Locally it is just a commuter route from the Victor suburbs to Rt 15, heading south to LA.  A Friend told me that she loved this road.  Cousin said it was boring.   This evening I tried to reassemble 6 hours of video clips... boring...   But the ride was not.

The first 50 miles was straight (well, it's all straight) with local traffic until getting past Barstow

and away from holiday travelers.   Once I was about 100 miles north of there I was usually driving alone and the pavement is in great shape.   Signs start welcoming travels to the Eastern Sierras and the mountains quickly become snow-capped and towering on either side of a wide desert valley.   As I drove further north a few cattle ranches appeared, mostly angus.  I don't know what they feed these guys... they certainly weren't in prime pasture... But they looked beefy and well fed.  The day started at 3,000 ft elevation.  The first sign I saw for elevation was 4,000 and that stayed the same all day.

Death Valley is about 100 miles east of 395.  Will have to keep that in mind as a possible route when eventually heading south.

Not much green grass until way up toward toward Bishop, 200+ miles.   Gas stops are about 50 miles apart and there were NO fast food or franchise hotels until reaching Lone Pine.   That was the first town on Rt 395 and had plenty of local color and tourist appeal.    Being this far away from metros makes a nice drive, all in itself.   

Most of the afternoon I drove alone and often there were no vehicles to be seen on the northbound side.   No tractor trailers at all... perhaps because it's the middle of the Thanksgiving holiday weekend.   At one fuel stop I met a group of Harley bikers from Bakersfield.   Otherwise I think I only passed 5 bikes all day.

The drive was helped by favorable weather.   Temps in the low 60's most of the day and calm winds.  I had to stay but no struggling with any highway details.

Bishop is a colorful town with lots of unique shops and the first of the snow ski equipment outlets that I have seen here.   The signs look like ski areas begin here and will continue as I head north toward Tahoe.   The tourist map pegs about 20 tourist destinations from here north, so Sunday should include some stops and photos along the way.   

The video was def boring...  I will eventually post it but there's not much to see.   The helmet cam doesn't do a good job on scenery so it's mostly white lines and fence posts.  The video didn't capture the wind... the smells, the feeling of the pavement.   The looks of the drivers who passed me when there was space.  Didn't show the looks of the drivers who shouldered their way past in double yellows.    I didn't click a single frame with the camera...   This was a day to ignore everything except the wheels...   My plan was to enjoy the ride... and that I did.

Jeff

Had a great Thanksgiving dinner with friend Ray and his family.  They are from Iran.   Father and brother are

from Iran.  Very interesting to be with. they speak aramaic.  "The language of Jesus", they said.  Very proud of that.  Food was super.  Turkey, Ham, potatoes, yams, Beef chunks with spinach, beans.

Ray's wife is mexican.  Made desert: yams with marshmellow, brown sugar and condensed milk... like candy or somores.

Coffee, brandy , tea, wine, tequila, scotch, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Photo is Ray on Nov 1 out at El Mirage Dry lake

Found on friends FB post...  Best Video of the year!   Lean into it, pick your line, and put weight on the outside peg.

Rocks sand and mud at El Mirage Dry Lake

Fun afternoon at El Mirage!   First ride was a fun climb up one of the foothills of the Shadow Mountains north of the lake.   More to post later.

12:04 AM,,,  OK,,, this is later...   I know I need to post more than just pics and videos here but I am so ADHD that typing gets me borzonged quickly.

Here's today's scoop.   Friend Alan from south of here picked up on my invitation of a forum to ride here in the desert.   He came over and we swapped stories while he unloaded and then we started down the (up the) camp road to the base of the shadow mountains.  Alan stands about 6' 3" and is built like a football player...  I could tell he was chomping at the bit to get up into the rock trails so when we reached the end of the road I let him lead the way up onto one of the foothills of the Shadow Mountains.   What a hoot!!!   Was a really great climb and we both managed it well.   




The video from the downhill return trip had a glitch so you miss the big BANG when I clipped a rock with y right side canister... PVC TLC will start tomorrow...   

We headed back to camp to put my stuff that had been in the canister away and then headed to the other trails.   I wasn't feeling must right so I asked if he would mind looking for sand and mud around the lake.  We headed west on Lake road to the north fence line and took turns leading the way through the sand, brush and mud slicks...  

Ever hear the phrase, "If it's gray, stay away?"   There were some guys riding out on the lake bed which is now closed due to water and mud...  When we reached the north boundary markers I leaned into a right turn right while I was crossing a mud slick...  Landing in sand is such a blessing...   The rest of the ride to the west end of the lake went pretty well.  Most of the road was just wet sand.   Where it got deep we kept the speed up and took out chances on the woop's.   I know that my front forks bottomed out a couple times.   

At the far west end of the property the fence line crosses the lake with a sign reading, "NO access to south when lake is closed."  We pulled up there and talked about the SCTA peeps who live along that fence on the private property side... lots of (like hundreds) old cars and trucks just rusting away...   Alan suggested that the economy would get a great boost if the owner would sell the vehicles and let hobby people buy them for restoration projects... lots of parts and labor would come out of putting the rigs on the open market.

When we turned around and headed back Alan led the way.  I commented that at least if he fell I would know not to follow that track...   Doesn't he get into a big patch of waterholes and mud and was waiving me off as I approached.   He managed to stay upright but the tracks were fun to see.   

Most of the lake ride was between 30 and 45 mph in an effort to stay on top of the sand.   It wasn't as deep as last week due to the rain, but most of the trail was 2-3" of loose stuff, so there was no way to drive it slow.   

I am certain that we passed one of the SCTA guys who was standing by on his side of the fence, but there was no way to slow down and chat at that point.  

The water holes filled some of the woops and that was a bit of a challenge...   finding a line to stay in the dry stuff at 45 MPH, and dunie bushes all over, was a good trick.   I had no choice at one point than to drive thru a water hole and took a pretty good shower...   Made it thru though...  That might be on one of the videos... will post later.

Once we reached the Hess Ranch (along the north fence) we were on pretty good roads and made short work of the 3 or 4 miles back to camp.   Always a good thing to end the day with a comfy ride to the finish.

Back at camp we shared a couple brews (Thank you Alan) and talked war stories while I admired my fresh mud coating and Alan loaded his bike...   You should see this dude run his bike up into his truck... advantages of being a semi-giant.

Sounds like Alan enjoyed the adventure.   He asked how he could get in on this BLM volunteer program so I told him about the Ambassador volunteers and forwarded his name to the boss for getting linked up.   

Will try to get to the other videos soon.   Travel safe!    Jeff

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Here you gadget man Gary Weaver. Saw this at Lucas off road expo. Jump starter for my Sertao (which decides to take days off that don't match mine...) Will also power phone, wifi, pacemaker and vibra-whatever...

Dear Abby,

At 12,000 miles I had sole replaced on my Sears construction boot with 50,000 mile warranty.   At 24,000 miles the boot is coming apart at the heel.   

Will this silicone fix last or should I quit dragging my feet?    

Glueless in California.

Helite Air Bag Motor-vehicle Vest information

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My name is Jeff Kurtz and I am your contact for Helite Air Bag Motorvehicle Vests here in the US.  The differences between these vests and out equestrian vests are the design of the triggering lanyard attachment and the insertion of a Class II back brace in the motorcycle vests.  Otherwise they are exactaly the same vests.

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Below, you will find links to the corporate websites which are based in France.  You can contact me directly or send an inquiry through the corporate website and it will be forwarded to me directly.

Most sizes are in stock at my location in PA.  Vests can be purchased via paypal or credit card and will be shipped by priority within 24 hours.

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Collecting comments about the BMW lifestyle and how we avoid accidents for hundreds of thousands of miles... knock wood!

Lance LeFort Sometimes it's best to roll your eyes and walk away. Life is short and you don't want to spend it talking like an actuarial to someone who has decided to listen to the " motorcycling is dangerous" crowd.

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Jeff Payne Well CLEDUS has been in every state in the lower 48.man there is some good stuff.rode over 250000.miles and ride your on pace.and also all of what Kyle b said.stop and take pictures we will love them when we are old.

Kyle L. Brandenburger commented on your post in GS Giants.

Kyle L. Brandenburger 8:26am Nov 17 I've never kept track of miles, besides off-road miles are like "dog years"!

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Steve Smith 8:17am Nov 17 Been riding for 45 yrs. Over 200K BMW miles since 1995. Rear ended twice. Once while sitting still at a pay booth at a campground at bikeweek in Daytona (rear ended by a Harley rider) and once while in rush hour traffic in the HOV lane in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. I was coming to a stop and was rear ended by a cage driver talking on his cell phone. No other BMW street bike accidents. I was wearing a high viz mesh jacket in accident two. Many of years of dual sport riding with only minor get offs. No injuries and no high viz.

Brad A. Calbert 8:09am Nov 17 I attribute a large measure of my safe riding habits to track time.

Kyle L. Brandenburger 6:59am Nov 17 Being a good rider is just like being good at most things: The more times you do it, the better you get at doing it. The many miles of road, or trails teach you things which you will experience again in the future. I always say that I learn something on every ride. On the other side of this spectrum, it helps to know where your limits are and where your bike's limits are. Knowing the limits and testing them is a large part of the GS Giants! Once you know what you can do and what the bike is capable of doing with you on it there aren't a lot of scenarios that you haven't experienced. Time in the seat!!!

Jeff Kurtz 6:40am Nov 17 Good responses to all... looking forward to hearing from others. Travel safe!

Mark Carrera 6:16am Nov 17 Jeff, on a PR note (not belonging to the "biker-Set"...I usually listen for questions closely. If the audience is responsive to my replies, I add a little bit about our image VS the leather'd one's. I point out that when I am at a fuel or lunch stop, I experience positive interaction with the public and always get interesting questions. In contrast, I have observed the leather clad group either ignored completely or avoided all together. So, I describe our style as this, all terrain explorers.

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Jeff Kurtz 10:53pm Nov 16 How do we describe our lifestyle? I talk to people about our adventures and they have no idea. They are generic "motorcycles are dangerous" mind sets... Does anyone have stats on Hi-viz vs sleeveless t-shirt accident history? BMW miles traveled per incident? Comparison to the ;biker; set? This is a topic I want to explore in detail.

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